Let me get this straight? The Ten Commandments No longer exist? As Christian Religion say???
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surfer
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Posted 9:58 pm, 10/18/2022
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The new covenant is it�Christ established a better covenant for everyone.
Read it serval times mhj, maybe you'll understand
The Old Covenant required blood sacrifices, but it could not provide a final sacrifice for sin. The Old Covenant required repeated, daily sacrifices of animals as a reminder of the people's sin. But, as Scripture says, "it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins" (Hebrews 10:4). Under the Old Covenant, the same inadequate sacrifices were constantly repeated. For every sin, the process was replicated, day after day, month after month, year after year. The Old Covenant never provided a full, complete sacrifice for sin. "For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second" (Hebrews 8:7, ESV).Jesus came to establish a "better covenant" (Hebrews 7:22), a "new covenant" that Jesus said was in His blood. Jesus shed His blood on the cross to take away the sins of the world (John 1:29) and ratify the new covenant between God and man. On the night He was betrayed, Jesus took the cup and said to His disciples, "Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:27�28). By "this cup," Jesus referred, by metonymy, to the contents of the cup, which was the "fruit of the vine" (Mark 14:25). This was representative of Christ's blood. Jesus gave His disciples the cup, infusing it with new meaning, and told them drinking it was to be a memorial of His death: it was to be drunk "in remembrance of me" (1 Corinthians 11:25). Now, "whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes" (verse 26).The New Covenant is based on faith in the shed blood of Christ to take away sin, not on repeated sacrifices or any other kind of work (see Ephesians 2:8�9). Because Jesus is the holy Lamb of God, His one-time sacrifice is sufficient to atone for the sins of all who believe in Him. We "partake" of Jesus by coming to Him in faith (John 1:12), trusting that His shed blood (and broken body) is sufficient to pay for our sins. The elements of bread and wine commemorate His death and the shedding of His blood. When we eat those elements in communion with other believers, we affirm our faith and fellowship in Christ.
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mhj
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Posted 9:21 pm, 10/18/2022
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surfer (view profile)
Posted 7:08 pm, 10/18/2022
Isn't this verse biblical mhj? Plus we're not Israelites
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The Lord God spoke to the Israelites directly. The Israelites ran to MOSES saying don't let him speak to us anymore and we will do whatever YOU SAY. MOSES BECAME the mediator between God and the Israelites. Why can't you CHRISTIANS see TRUTH.
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surfer
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Posted 7:59 pm, 10/18/2022
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Why do you call the Bible stupid?
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mhj
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Posted 7:30 pm, 10/18/2022
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You're stu-----pid
surfer (view profile)
Posted 7:08 pm, 10/18/2022
Isn't this verse biblical mhj? Plus we're not Israelites.
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Tell the ISRAELITES this: �
""""YOU HAVE SEEN FOR YOURSELVES ""
"""""THAT I HAVE _SPOKEN_ TO YOU FROM HEAVEN:
Key word is underlined above
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mhj
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Posted 7:22 pm, 10/18/2022
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Moses incorporated The Covenant of circumcision and God's COVENANT with the Israelites along with all that the Lord God had told him creating a Nation for God.
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mhj
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Posted 7:19 pm, 10/18/2022
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1 Samuel 8
And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.
7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.
9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.
10 And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto the people that asked of him a king.
Read the reminder
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mhj
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Posted 7:14 pm, 10/18/2022
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And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
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surfer
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Posted 7:12 pm, 10/18/2022
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surfer
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Posted 7:08 pm, 10/18/2022
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Isn't this verse biblical mhj? Plus we're not Israelites.
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites this: �You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven:
Key word is underlined above.
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mhj
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Posted 6:41 pm, 10/18/2022
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Bitter. You follow Christianity not the Biblical Truth that comes from hearing God. Listen to this..
Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.
22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
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mhj
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Posted 6:34 pm, 10/18/2022
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Bitter. Sin offering not the old Covenant required blood. Passover required blood. Pillar and post. The Old Covenant the promise God made with me you the Israelites is if we obey his voice we would become his people.. Jesus became our blood sacrifice for our sin. But nowhere is the old Covenant requires blood..
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surfer
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Posted 4:41 pm, 10/18/2022
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Read it serval times mhj, maybe you'll understand
The Old Covenant required blood sacrifices, but it could not provide a final sacrifice for sin. The Old Covenant required repeated, daily sacrifices of animals as a reminder of the people's sin. But, as Scripture says, "it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins" (Hebrews 10:4). Under the Old Covenant, the same inadequate sacrifices were constantly repeated. For every sin, the process was replicated, day after day, month after month, year after year. The Old Covenant never provided a full, complete sacrifice for sin. "For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second" (Hebrews 8:7, ESV).Jesus came to establish a "better covenant" (Hebrews 7:22), a "new covenant" that Jesus said was in His blood. Jesus shed His blood on the cross to take away the sins of the world (John 1:29) and ratify the new covenant between God and man. On the night He was betrayed, Jesus took the cup and said to His disciples, "Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:27�28). By "this cup," Jesus referred, by metonymy, to the contents of the cup, which was the "fruit of the vine" (Mark 14:25). This was representative of Christ's blood. Jesus gave His disciples the cup, infusing it with new meaning, and told them drinking it was to be a memorial of His death: it was to be drunk "in remembrance of me" (1 Corinthians 11:25). Now, "whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes" (verse 26).The New Covenant is based on faith in the shed blood of Christ to take away sin, not on repeated sacrifices or any other kind of work (see Ephesians 2:8�9). Because Jesus is the holy Lamb of God, His one-time sacrifice is sufficient to atone for the sins of all who believe in Him. We "partake" of Jesus by coming to Him in faith (John 1:12), trusting that His shed blood (and broken body) is sufficient to pay for our sins. The elements of bread and wine commemorate His death and the shedding of His blood. When we eat those elements in communion with other believers, we affirm our faith and fellowship in Christ.
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surfer
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Posted 4:36 pm, 10/18/2022
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Then the LORD said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites this: �You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven:
Key word is underlined above.
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mhj
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Posted 4:18 pm, 10/18/2022
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Bitter. Can you not read.. go to Exodus 20 and read how the Lord God spoke from the mountain to the Israelites. That is why Jesus couldn't take them away but what he told MOSES to tell the people he took back upon himself. You CHRISTIANS only read what you are suppose to read because you are blind to TRUTH. It only takes FAITH in Jesus and what he TAUGHT to receive ETERNAL LIFE. Jesus reenforces The Covenant God made. Who spoke it ? Obey my voice and I will be your God and you will be my people.
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Bitter Old Man
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Posted 3:15 pm, 10/18/2022
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** Correction--I got my citation wrong in the previous post. It should have been Jeremiah 31:31 and not Jeremiah 31:3**
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Bitter Old Man
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Posted 3:13 pm, 10/18/2022
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"Bitter God gave us His COMMANDMENT if we are to be his people" God gave that commandment to Moses to give to the Israelites through Moses. I am not an Israelite, are you?
"God gave us HIS LAWS. MAN has divided them into 10 parts." Are those the same ten parts that you insisted that Jesus told us to follow? Also, God gave those laws to the Israelites. I am not an Israelite, are you?
"GOD GAVE ONE COVENANT TO THE ISRAELITES." Okay. For argument's sake let's pretend this is true.
"THE SAME COVENANT JESUS THE CHRIST BROUGHT TO THE WORLD TAKING AWAY THE LAWS OF MOSES THAT THE LORD GOD GAVE TO THE ISRAELITES.." In order to believe this you must say that Jesus lied in Luke 22:20. God promised a new covenant in Jeremiah 31:3` (which, I couldn't help but notice you conveniently neglected to copy and paste.) Jesus said his blood is the new covenant.
The writer of Hebrews wrote that the old covenant was made obsolete by God (Hebrews 8:13.) Why would Jesus bring something "obsolete" to the world?
Again, like the Serpent of Eden, you try to change the truth and twist it to fit your own agenda.
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mhj
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Posted 12:46 pm, 10/18/2022
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GOD GAVE ONE COVENANT TO THE ISRAELITES. THE SAME COVENANT JESUS THE CHRIST BROUGHT TO THE WORLD TAKING AWAY THE LAWS OF MOSES THAT THE LORD GOD GAVE TO THE ISRAELITES..
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I Will PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, and WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
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mhj
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Posted 12:40 pm, 10/18/2022
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Bitter God gave us His COMMANDMENT if we are to be his people. God gave us HIS LAWS. MAN has divided them into 10 parts.
THERE NOW OBEY THE LAWS OF GOD,.
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Bitter Old Man
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Posted 10:15 am, 10/18/2022
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M, I am proud of you for realizing that you have been misinformed about the 'Ten Commandments.' Now, let us move on and clear up a couple more of your misunderstandings.
First, all those commandments found in the Old Testament no longer apply. They were all part of the Old Covenant that God made with the Israelites. The good news is that we are under a new covenant that God promised in Jeremiah 31 and Christ said was his blood. (Luke 22:20.)
In this new covenant God promised to put His law inside us and even "write it" on our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33.) Jesus promised us that the Holy Spirit would be inside us (John 14:17) and that He (the Holy Spirit) would tell us what sin is, what righteousness is and how to judge between them (John 16:8.)
Having faith in Jesus's promises and trusting the Holy Spirit to tell us what is sinful sure takes the fun out of pointing at others and yelling "Sinner!" though.
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mhj
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Posted 9:05 am, 10/18/2022
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Bitter God gave us His COMMANDMENT if we are to be his people. God gave us HIS LAWS. MAN has divided them into 10 parts. There now obey the laws of God.
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