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Bestill

Posted 5:25 am, 09/21/2021

I may be wrong but I thought trump won in Tennessee.

troll

Posted 4:09 am, 09/21/2021

Bestill

Posted 3:50 am, 09/21/2021

Instead of giving yourself the opportunity to pull that brick out, you just keep adding cement. That is on you.

Bestill

Posted 3:48 am, 09/21/2021

I get it, I really do. But you just cannot get it. Which is ok. You are a victim of your own circumstance and that is fine. If you are incapable of self examination, who can help ya?

Bestill

Posted 3:44 am, 09/21/2021

Anti, please! You cannot even find your own bias! So simple, but you refuse to even take a look. This is not rocket surgery. Stop with your absolute judgement.

Bestill

Posted 3:40 am, 09/21/2021

From your previous posts, you are clearly racist. But I believe that this new curriculum is equally racist, just in a different way. It still teaches that non-white people are innately inferior, but unlike you (Foxy) it's attempting to change society to accommodate their perceived inferiority.

No it does not! Holy cow girl!

Cajahah

Posted 11:34 pm, 09/20/2021

Whether or not he's playing on an undercurrent of feelings and sentiments is different, but that's his handlers.

Cajahah

Posted 11:33 pm, 09/20/2021

Trump couldn't win a game of rummy with a stacked deck. He's a buffoon......

Bestill

Posted 10:36 pm, 09/20/2021

Interesting observation.

sgtkracka

Posted 10:30 pm, 09/20/2021

Sorry anti…. I don't know how to do italics on my phone so I just have to do quotes lolol

sgtkracka

Posted 10:29 pm, 09/20/2021

"Sarge, you mentioned that this is a "leftist" policy, so I pointed out that it began while the GOP was in full control.

IMHO, it's an ingenious GOP plan... they use Democratic policies (like equality) and push them to extremes, which inevitably divides the party and alienates moderates and independents. Those moderates might not agree with a lot of GOP policies, but they know that they don't agree with THIS so they begin to lean GOP."

I never thought of it that way and that is a very interesting theory but I personally think you're giving GOP politicians way more credit than they deserve lol…. But on the other hand, Trump is a 4D chess master so it's at least plausible lol

Bestill

Posted 6:44 pm, 09/20/2021

I've already answered this twice, and stated that your question doesn't make sense. Repeating it a third time doesn't make it any clearer, so please try asking in a different way.

You have not answered at all. Let me try to help,
Look at the graphic
What statements represent your position

For example, you speak a lot about reverse racism. What other statements on the graph describe your position?

michaelhjsr

Posted 5:46 pm, 09/20/2021

Institutionalization

antithesis

Posted 5:18 pm, 09/20/2021

What you are telling them is we have to change the way life works to allow them to prosper simply because of the color of their skin. That is racist.


On this, Foxy, you and I agree.

From your previous posts, you are clearly racist. But I believe that this new curriculum is equally racist, just in a different way. It still teaches that non-white people are innately inferior, but unlike you (Foxy) it's attempting to change society to accommodate their perceived inferiority.

It's like a backhanded compliment.

Jim Crowe wasn't equal. Government giving to white cities, communities and education enough money to educate children but the Blacks communities were basically ignored. All people are created equal. Let people believe in themselves. Give Hope where there is none. Blacks people ain't stupid and can learn. Seems government and good intention white people keeps telling Blacks you not smart enough. After many years of propping people up it's hard to get away from it.

I agree that historically this is true, Mikey. And as I said before, I have problem with teaching it as a regrettable time in our history.

But not as part of a plan for the future. We can't endorse (enforce?) anti-white racism to make up for a history of non-white racism.

Also, I want to point out that your post was exclusively about black people. Right now the largest minority race is Hispanic (20% versus 13%), and Hispanics don't seem to have the same problems.

As of 2018, the median income by race was:

Asian: $85,897
White: $65,777
Hispanic: $51,404
Black: $43,892


(the link breaks down all Asians by ethnicity, Bestill)

Second generation minorities make an average of about 13% more than first generation immigrants, so the median income for second generation Hispanics is $57,978:


So while it's true that the median income for Hispanics is less than that of white people (13-22% less, depending on whether you include first generation immigrants), it's also true that the median income for black people is far less than that of Hispanics (15-32% less). And the median for Asians is far more than any other race (30% more than white people).

If there's a problem of systemic racism in the US, then it's obviously not towards all non-whites. How can we teach that minorities are innate victims of racism that can't possibly improve their own status, when we can see that Asians and Hispanics have had no such problem?

Acumen

Posted 5:03 pm, 09/20/2021

Whatever, foxy.

Foxnose

Posted 5:01 pm, 09/20/2021

Lets just be honest Springy, you really don't know much of anything at all. That is why no one responds to your garbage posts.

antithesis

Posted 4:59 pm, 09/20/2021

School funding
https://apps.urban.org/feat...air-share/


Sure... that's about poor kids, though, not races. So the implication is that minorities are poor while white people are not. I can't imagine a world where that supposition isn't racist.

Are you suggesting that segregation is the preferable solution now, instead of "Euro-centric curriculum?" That white children should be taught by white teachers based on Euro-centric curriculum, while non-white children should be taught by "their own" teachers based on their culture's curriculum?

Nope! That would be ic! Do not make sweeping assumptions. Curriculum should be inclusive.

OK then, so how do you propose that we make the curriculum "inclusive" without it suddenly becoming exclusive to white children?

Again running with the video earlier that was stating that "sitting quietly and learning passively" is a white culture trait, how do you propose that a single class both accommodate children that can sit quietly and learn passively and accommodate children that can't?

If you're trying to say that we shouldn't teach non-white kids that they can lift themselves up based on their own merits, what do you suggest as an alternative?

I am not saying that at all, again with the sweeping assumptions. I am saying that trying to impose your values on another is never successful. I would suggest respecting each other's values and mores would lead to better outcomes for all people.

I don't think that is is a "sweeping assumption" at all. The new curriculum explicitly states that the concept of "bootstraps theory" is racist. The fundamental principal states that "the best way for a person or group of people to come up in the world is to create their own opportunities and lift themselves up by their bootstraps."


If that is racist and we can no longer teach children that they have the ability to "create their own opportunities and lift themselves up by their bootstraps," then what do you propose as an alternative?

So, where do you see yourself on the graphic?

I've already answered this twice, and stated that your question doesn't make sense. Repeating it a third time doesn't make it any clearer, so please try asking in a different way.

Acumen

Posted 4:57 pm, 09/20/2021

Shut up foxy. We all know that Bestil is not racist and that you are.

Foxnose

Posted 4:52 pm, 09/20/2021

No switch to it. I was simply trying to tell you that you cannot see how racist you really are because you won't look. Nothing like being blinded by ignorance

Bestill

Posted 4:46 pm, 09/20/2021

Anyhoo! See you guys later! I got stuff to do.

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